diff --git a/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/remote.ts b/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/remote.ts
index 2df1d1cfaf2025a17d8d4e46e50af93063193b2f..29ab926a392444784e1f0d4fce640cc6053a6afe 100644
--- a/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/remote.ts
+++ b/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/remote.ts
@@ -574,7 +574,7 @@ Registry.as<IViewContainersRegistry>(Extensions.ViewContainersRegistry).register
 				matches = /^details(@(\d+))?$/.exec(group);
 
 				if (matches) {
-					return -500;
+					return -500 + Number(matches[2]);
 				}
 
 				matches = /^help(@(\d+))?$/.exec(group);
diff --git a/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/tunnelView.ts b/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/tunnelView.ts
index 033bdde9a175b2049769e7842908e81e4e7453fb..7ed9fa790e0d0c619bccff8a2678d5faa358c806 100644
--- a/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/tunnelView.ts
+++ b/src/vs/workbench/contrib/remote/browser/tunnelView.ts
@@ -729,7 +729,10 @@ export class TunnelPanelDescriptor implements IViewDescriptor {
 	readonly canToggleVisibility = true;
 	readonly hideByDefault = false;
 	readonly workspace = true;
+	// group is not actually used for views that are not extension contributed. Use order instead.
 	readonly group = 'details@0';
+	// -500 comes from the remote explorer viewOrderDelegate
+	readonly order = -500;
 	readonly remoteAuthority?: string | string[];
 	readonly canMoveView = true;
 	readonly containerIcon = Codicon.plug;